Package: - As the package arrived, shorts looked like nicely packed in a mesh bag with top mesh-bag tag, however, the shorts itself did not have any tags(?). I assumed, those have been tried before, this is the most likely reason. Overall pants looked like they were probably tried a few times. Fit: - I tried on the shorts, not really using them, just put them on to wear them for a few minutes and try with different kind of pants/shorts. They look and fit great under different shorts, including jeans. Totally must have product. Not making you look too bulky, but still giving all the padding you need. Quality & Freshness of product: - Right after first try I got multiple zits on my legs. Surely, I assume, those padded shorts were probably tried multiple times and for whatever reason people decided to return them. As I like the pants and they seemed OK, I decided to wash those, I just wanted to start using them. Of course cold water and a bit of delicate soap. However... - Before washing them I had to remove the padding from the inside pockets. As I was removing the padding it seemed as if somebody was already toying with it, pads had multiple lousy scratches and just seemed a tiny bit worn. Either way, I decided to disregard it, I like the pants, let me wash them, those pants will be beaten up anyways. - As I started washing the pants, unfortunately, I noticed the seams in the crouch to come apart (not because of washing, those holes were already there!), there was one finger size hole through and two other places of approx. 1 inch were seam also was falling apart. Looking in more detail it rather seemed like a fabrication issue, unless somebody was just hammering them on-themselves - Either way, because I've already put the pants into water and I like the pants so much and wanted to wear them next day, I decided to fix them on my own and disregard all the issues I noticed. Disappointed, but believing in my skills I managed to put them together. Summary: - Overall this is a nice pair of padded shorts. However, for a used(!) product $80 is definitely terribly overpriced. Huge disappointment that I had to fix those including pads being slightly worn (scratched), but OK, rather somebody with long nails was not doing a good job to put them in. Either way, those pants will be well used, so I decided to disregard those issues and fix them; probably if I did not put them into water I would return them back and bought them from some other place. I hope they don't fall apart. - I would give those pants 5-star score, but because of all the issues, just generally looking like slightly worn, I give 3-starts and overall their quality - except the holes - earns them 3-starts. Overall rating: great shorts so far. Message to seller: Before sending, please check the pants if this is a quality product or if you sell a used product please provide a discount. $80 for looking used shorts seems a bit too much. Because of this experience I do not think I will TRY BEFORE BUY again; doesn't seem worth the effort.